Hey there wrestling fans, welcome back to the Wrestling Roundtable. We have crowned a champion in our Bobby the Brain Heenan Memorial Managers tournament. Is it Paul Heyman or Paul Bearer who will come out on top? Also. this week we will turn back the clock a little bit and we will ask a few questions from back in the day. We will discuss the man they call Vader, and also a few other questions that some fans are wanting to know our opinions on. So sit back, and grab a drink. This is the Roundtable.
The winner of our Bobby the Brain Heenan Memorial Tournament is:
Heyman managed not only in the WWE with Brock Lesnar, The Big Show, Curtis Axel, just to name a few. Heyman managed in WCW under the name Paul E Dangerously. There, he managed guys like the Undertaker (Mean Mark Callous), Stone Cold Steve Austin (Stunning Steve Austin), Arn Anderson, Bobby Eaton, all part of the stable the Dangerous Alliance fronted by WWE Hall of Famer Ravishing Rick Rude. Heyman was a heel manager pretty much his entire career. He was also the owner and founder of ECW in the mid 90’s, where he enjoyed about a five to six year run with his own company. Heyman, according to the majority of our panelists, and according to you the fans, is the greatest manager of all time.
Thanks for participating, we will have a new tournament up next week featuring wrestlers who won singles championships in WWE and WCW, but was never a World Champion.
1. Jinder Mahal
The WWE Champion may have his sights set on Brock Lesnar, but that does not keep the modern day Maharaja from putting a beatdown on one AJ Styles on Smackdown.
2. The Miz
Some disagree with me here (Frosh), but the Miz had a nice clean win over Matt Hardy in his IC title defense on Raw. Are his days numbered though as Mr Strowman is on his trail.
3. Alexa Bliss
I just cannot get enough of this girl. Phenominal wrestler, phenominal worker, and she always finds a way to win matches. She won over Mickie James again, this time on the main event on Raw.
4. Braun Strowman
He is back, and on a terror to find the Miz. Does Braun Strowman have the Intercontinental title in his future as well?
5. AJ Styles
AJ is back in the championship hunt, and may be looking forward to Jinder Mahal and the WWE title after Survivor Series. Can the Phenominal one become a two time WWE Champion?
The Fabulous Moolah was said to have held the WWF Womens Championship for 28 straight years. This is not the case however, as she did in fact lose it to multiple female wrestlers over the years, but would regain the title over and over again. The womens title was also on hiatus for about eight years during this time. Moolah would hold the title off and on for 28 years before finally dropping the title to Sensational Sherri in 1987. She would soon retire, before coming back in 1999 and winning the WWE Womens Championship one more time at the ripe old age of 74. (And they said Mickie James was old).
Vader left the WCW in late 1995 and joined the WWE. Some say that his WWE career was a failure. So what if he would have stayed in WCW? Would he have had more success than he did in the WWE?
Steve: This is tough because with the NWO coming just a year later, I feel like Vader would have been lost in the mix. He had his time in WCW in the early 90’s, and while I think he would have been good competition for the NWO, he would have probably ended up joining the NWO like every other guy did in WCW at one time or another. So I don’t think he has any more success than his crap run in WWE in 1996-97, but at least he was in the championship picture. I don’t think he would have been with Hogan in charge of things.
Frosh: I can’t imagine it. WCW in the late ’90’s was STACKED with talent. That being said, WWE sure could have used him better.
Chad: He probably he would have less due to Hogan and the NWO running roughshot over the organization and from all indications Vader was too nice of a guy to really challenge that authority, it made have made someone like Big Show come to the WWE even earlier than Feb 1999.
Tyler: I think so, as far all their *many* faults, WCW knew how to book him as the monster he was.
In your opinion: What era was the best? The New Generation, The Attitude Era, or the PG era?
Steve: None of the above. My favorite was the old school era from 1987 to 1992. Loved watching my Saturday morning wrestling as a kid. The stories played out over time, and I was never bored with the product. I was always the only one who jeered Hulkamania, and nearly got my ass kicked on a couple occasions. Especially when I was rooting for an Iraqi version of Sgt Slaughter to whip Hogan’s ass at Wrestlemania VII.
Frosh: My pick would be the Ruthless Aggression Era. This saw the birth of stars like Brock Lesnar, John Cena, Batista, and Randy Orton. It saw the Hayday of guys like Kurt Angle, Edge, Chris Jericho, JBL and more. It was coming hot off of the heels of the attitude era and was a really fun time to enjoy wrestling.
Chad: To me I think I would say the Attitude Era (Fall 97-Summer 2002) would be the best due to the stars that it helped create some of which are still used to this day and the inventiveness allowed the WWF to beat the WCW.
Tyler: Attitude Era by far. That’s what got me back into wrestling, and say what you want about the in-ring work at that time, at least the shows were *entertaining*, if sometimes in a trainwreck sort of way.
Emma was one of the superstars recently released by the WWE, along with Darren Young and Summer Rae. While many feel Young and Rae were no surprise, it came to a shock for Emma as she was involved in active storylines on Raw. Do you agree with the WWE on the release of Emma?
Steve: Disagree with the decision to release Emma. It was not her fault that they did not know how to book her. She was involved in a big storyline with the womens division, and claimed to be the leader of the new era for women wrestlers. Then you go and release her? Stupid move. As for the others Summer Rae, and Darren Young, I have no use for them, they can go. I think Emma quickly resurfaces in GFW or in ROH very soon.
Frosh: I am fine with it. I mean, where was she going? Was she going to be in the title hunt? Probably not. Let her have a bit to shine on the indie scene, and then come back more established.
Chad: I really am not opposed to the her getting released her character was not really going anywhere and could never really behind her character and the development she always seemed to be there.
Tyler: Absolutely not. She was still a top contender in the women’s division, she was allowed to be competitive with Asuka twice, and she had received new (albeit crappy) theme music! Given her reaction on her Twitter account, this seemed to come out of nowhere.
Of all the Champion vs Champion match at Survivor Series. Do you think we will see those matches or will we see a new Champion from now until then.
Steve: As much as I could see new tag team champions next week. I don’t think it will happen. I think the matches that are set will be as advertised. The Miz and Corbin have been going at it back and forth with words, Obviously Lesnar and Mahal will be going against each other. No one is beating Alexa Bliss, and I dont think Nattie loses her title either. So yeah, I think the card will be as is right now.
Frosh: I can see Miz losing the IC belt, because his match with Corbin doesn’t make a lot of sense. Other than that, I think they will be as they are. I don’t see Lesnar losing the belt up to survivor series, although that would be hilarious.
Chad: The only title match we know of between now and then is the Usos defending against Benjamin and Gable in which I don’t expect a title change so I say the matches stay as is.
Tyler: I can see some of current heel vs heel matches being switched up before the PPV.
Who do you believe is the most under rated WWE superstar on the current roster?
Steve: I would have to say right now it is the Miz. He is at the top of his game as the Intercontinental Champion, but honestly he needs to be in the Universal Championship picture. He can wrestle, he can talk, and he is arguably the top heel in the business right now. Could he hang with Brock Lesnar? Probably not, but I bet he could find a way to win.
Frosh: There are a few that you could mention, Cesaro, Miz, etc, but I will go with someone who isn’t even really being discussed, which I think is really what the quesiton is getting after. And I will go with Apollo Crews. Formerly Uhaa Nation from the indie scene, this man has talent. He is dynamite in the ring, with speed, strength and agility. He can military press and follow it up with a standing moonsault. This guy is WAY underutilized.
Chad: I would say Cedric Alexander from the 205 live crop seeing him put on great performances in ROH i’m astonished he hasn’t been pushed more in teh division for the likes of Enzo Amore
Tyler: Elias Sampson. Great gimmick, good promo work, and really gets a reaction from the crowd.
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