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This week’s questions… 

Dolphins’ QB Ryan Tannehill re-injured his ACL in preseason practice….

1) After Miami Dolphins’ Ryan Tannehill went down with what is being described as a potentially season ending knee injury the Dolphins acted quickly, and the word is they have convinced former Bears’ QB Jay Cutler to come out of retirement and sign a deal for one year, $10 million. 

Is this move good, bad or so-so? Why?  

Chad: I call it a so-so move as I don’t think Jay Cutler is going to affect the Dolphins more than 1 or 2 games one way or the other. Yes he has Adam Gase and low expectations but I don’t think it gets Jay Cutler past the AFC elite.

Dan: The move was a so-so move. He had some good seasons in Chicago, but with some interception problems. He can be a good fit for the Dolphins (he did lead the Bears to the playoffs), he had good seasons in Denver, he’s clutch when he needs to be and, overall, has had some pretty good seasons.

I think he was the best fit in Miami, with the most experience. But, his interceptions are a problem and he has been hurt the past couple of seasons and not training all off-season to play again.

… Dolphins Sign QB Jay Cutler To 1-Year Deal Worth $13 Million.

David: I think it’s a great move here. Cutler had his best year under Case, and the Dolphins need to find out if Tanny is the problem with that offense, if Cutler wins 9 games and has a positive TD/INT ratio, then the Fins know they have to move on.

If, Cutler bombs, and Moore is a winner (and I like Moore) then they have to go all-in on Kirk next offseason.

If, Cutler and Moore stink, then they know that Tanny isn’t the issue, it’s a personnel/system issue.

Joe: I’m not impressed with this signing.  Mainly because Cutler’s  career to this point is simply unimpressive. It’s not that he’s terrible it’s just that… do you really want a QB that averages 18.25 interceptions a year helming your team?  Most years that he played he threw almost as many INTs as he did TDs.

I think there is another QB out there who is unemployed that would have been a better choice.

2) The question has been asked before but begs returning to due to the fact that at the Dolphins seriously considered signing RG III and Tim Tebow (along with Colin Kaepernick), the Ravens signing David Olson, an arena league (Kansas City Phantoms of the Champions Indoor Football (CIF) league) who also only completed 1 pass (for a loss) in his collegiate career, the NY Jets having no one on their QB depth list that would probably challenge for any other teams starting QB job and the Dallas Cowboys signing 36-year-old journeyman Luke McCown to provide depth behind Dak Prescott and Kellen Moore… 

Has Colin Kaepernick been blacklisted by the NFL owners and if it is a provable fact that he has been blacklisted do you think Kaepernick may seriously consider suing the NFL owners as a group as well as the NFL itself for collusion? 

Chad: It certainly appears that way which kneeling for the anthem has created controversy that NFL Owners. GM’s and Teams don’t necessarily want to deal with it regardless of the talent he may have.

Dan: I think so.

A lot of these signings, especially the one mentioned, were just horrible. He’s barely gotten looked at this off-season even though he’s better than a lot of reserve signings. I think, because he kneeled, it brought negative attention to the team and the NFL and the owners didn’t like that, so they made sure he didn’t get signed, yet. The Ravens were very close to signing him, but the owner was against it so it didn’t happen.

If, he could prove it, I think he would sue them. Not for the money, but to show what the NFL really does and how they are restricting what players can do and what they can’t do and just how much control they really do have over signings, etc…

David: Tell you what. Go look at EVERY other player that was kneeling. Guess how many have jobs? ALL OF THEM. The guys that were not benched in the game, have jobs.

If, Aaron Rodgers said he wanted to get breast implants after he retired; change his name to Angela Rodgers, and thinks that the US should put Harvey Milk on the one-dollar bill, all these “right wing extremist” owners would still fall over themselves signing him if he was a free agent.

Joe: Personally?

I definitely think Kaepernick is being blacklisted and I think he has a strong case for collusion against the NFL owners and the NFL  itself.   

3) Former Alabama linebacker Ryan Anderson recently said “Practices (at Alabama) are a little bit rougher than (they are) here.” 

(1) Do you think it is conceivable that a college program’s practice (even Alabama’s) could be tougher than any NFL practice and (2) could this statement come back to haunt Anderson down the road because some player might want to send a message to the rookie?  

Linebacker Ryan Anderson runs a drill at the NFL football scouting combine in Indianapolis

Chad: I think it is conceivable due to the fact that in College they are working for a spot to get noticed and drafted into the NFL and become a big NFL star. It can come back to haunt as some extra tough blocking or hits can come his way in Training Camp.

Dan: I think it is conceivable with how many restrictions and regulations are in the NFL’s practices, but I also think it has to do with the running  and up-downs, etc… I think college’s practices feature a lot of running and conditioning, more-so than the NFL’s.

I think it also could have to do with the fact that he was always going at that speed and intensity that he’s going now and the college’s practices feature more running and moving around than an NFL practice might entail, it seems easier to him in his head.

I think it definitely can happen, especially since veterans and older players don’t like it when a rookie starts acting like that and saying certain stuff to the media., Also to remind him that this is the NFL, this is the big boys.

David: Of course it is.

In the NFL, coaches know what they have and what they can do. In the NCAA, coaches are not 100% sure what they have when they step on campus. There is also no tons of lawyers from the NFLPA worried about how hard practices are in Alabama.

Will the statement come back to haunt him? I bet most veteran players agree with him, and are GLAD it’s not as hard.

Joe: I kind of have to take a pass on this question, mainly because I have no idea how hard a college practice would be. I don’t really follow college ball that much either online or by watching games except to check on which players may be potential high draft choices or an occasional game here and there. Do I check the scores of certain team or the polls, etc…? Yeah. But, that don’t tell me diddly about how they practice or hard it is or anything else.

Here is what I do know about a college football practice… many moons ago, after I played high school ball, I was invited to try out for my college’s team. Those practices… to me… were hard. I was competing against guys from places like freaking Texas who live, eat and sleep football. I got my ass dropped to the ground in a tackling drill where me and the guy with the ball hit head on, spent a night in the hospital with a serious concussion and said “Screw this crap.”

4) Atlanta Falcons’ CB Jalen Collins has just been suspended 10 games by the NFL for violating the leagues’ PED policy. He was also suspended 4 games last year for the same offense. Collins’ history of drug use has been documented back to his LSU days… he admitted to failing multiple drug tests at LSU …  marijuana. 

(1) Are Collins days at Atlanta now seriously endangered and (2) is Collins the exception to the rule or do you believe that drug use (PED and recreational) are a lot more wide spread than is commonly reported/acknowledged?

Jalen Collins’ future with Falcons uncertain following 10-game suspension for PEDs

Chad: His days in the league are seriously numbered with a second drug violation not just the Falcons; and I definitely think that the drug use is more wide spread than commonly known.

Dan: I think they are. Back-to-back seasons suspended due to a failed drug test? Ten games gone now and no expectation on what to expect for these ten weeks besides a two-year track record of failure? He’s definitely running on thin ice.

I do think that drug use, though, is more widely spread than a lot of us think about. I especially think about that in the NBA. But a lot of players get busted for marijuana, but never fail a drug test. They have no reason to sell or transport it, so what else do you think is going on? Plus, with the physicality of the sport, I believe a lot of players use prescription drugs that they don’t have prescriptions to, they smoke marijuana due to it’s medicinal qualities and I believe, in all sports, PEDs are more widely spread than what is being caught, or at least told us.

David: The NFL cannot change the weed rule until every state changes it’s law. It would create an unbalanced playing field.

Would be funny though, if it became a national law that medical weed is legal, and every NFL QB all of a sudden was struck with glaucoma . . . except Tom Brady, of course.

Joe: First, let me say that this dude has a damn problem and needs to seriously check himself out with a personal inventory… if his brain is capable of doing that… and then get some damn help.

Now…

(1) Very numbered.

(2) I think there are more players doing PEDs and/or recreational drugs than most of us can even imagine.

5) Let’s just put it out there… 

In light of Odell Beckham Jr. saying he wants to be the highest paid player in the NFL… is he simply one of the more overrated players in the game? Why or why not?

Odell Beckham Jr. in action…

Chad: I don’t feel he is overrated I think he does show up big for the Giants. He has had some let downs in big games but still a top 5 receiver in my book.

Dan: No, he’s definitely not.

He’s putting up some numbers that are once-a-generation numbers for his first three seasons, catching 10-plus touchdowns and over 1300 yards receiving in each of his first three seasons. He has had 30 touchdowns in 35 games. He also had seven multi-touchdown games through that time period and was only beat out by Rob Gronkowski, and John Jefferson, a receiver who had played on the San Diego Chargers. He tied Randy Moss with seven and Jerry Rice only had two. He also only had 22 TDs in his first 35 games. Most receiving yards ever through first 35 games. He finished the season strong last year. He’s a top fantasy option. There’s nothing overrated about him as a player, in my opinion.

David: You will never see a WR the highest paid player on his own team, let alone in the NFL. Even if I have a rookie QB, there is going to be  a LT or defensive player that will command more money.

Why? Say Jerry Rice is in the NFL today, the Best WR ever, and he’s got Goff as his QB. Now take Doug Baldwin, Julian Edelman, Michael  Thomas, Golden Tate, Kelvin Benjamin or Allen Robinson and put them in Green Bay, NE, or New Orleans. Who has the better year? Those are the WRs ranked 15-20 by the NFL, by the way. I’ll spend all the money on my QB and 2 above average WRs thank you.

Joe: No way a wide receiver is ever going to be the highest paid player in the NFL. If, it does happen some day… I will be totally shocked.

I don’t think he is overrated… not when in his first three years he has 91 receptions/1305 total yards/108 yards per game, 96 receptions/1450 total yards/96 yards per game and 101 receptions/1367 total yards/85 yards per game.

Has he had some bad games? Yes. Show me one player who hasn’t. It just seems the bad games happen at the worst times and get magnified because of who he is and who he plays for.

 

 

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